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What do you mean “clinical”? Do you mean it’s language used by diagnosed DID systems, or is it like transmeds who use weird language to gatekeep who’s “really” trans?I keep hearing voices sometimes. I’m really excited to think I might actually have people up here in my head, but even that feels shameful because I’ve always heard “You shouldn’t want this, it’s hellish. You’re fucked up for wanting to have a system. You’re erasing the trauma it’s given me.”I…don’t feel singular. I never have. I’ve never felt like I’m just me. I’ve always felt people behind me, hand on my shoulder, someone taking my hand. Someone holding me when I desperately, desperately needed someone I could trust to not abandon me the way everyone else had. Facets, I called them. Masks, even though they felt so, so different to myself.But because I can’t find them, because it’s strange and vague feelings here and there, it feels…wrong to be excited? Wrong to be happy or to finally feel like things make sense. Like I’m still not allowed somewhere that might give me answers.
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blackheart-biohazards:

What do you mean “clinical”? Do you mean it’s language used by diagnosed DID systems, or is it like transmeds who use weird language to gatekeep who’s “really” trans?

Both. It is language that is generally only used by plurals who understand themselves using the clinical model; and additionally system gatekeepers, sometimes calles sysmeds, police the language that they think people are allowed to use.

I want to assure you, plurality is not always suffering, just as existing as a singlet is not always suffering.

Do not let shame and fear stop you from pursuing knowledge, or the truth about yourself.

If you’re looking for support, and feeling like you don’t belong, try looking for these terms: endogenic plurality, pro endo, endo safe.

also, if you feel like it’s always there, there’s origin terms for systems that have just been there from birth, that didn’t form later on if you’re looking for a label and that seems to fit! /gen

What do you mean “clinical”? Do you mean it’s language used by diagnosed DID systems, or is it like transmeds who use weird language to gatekeep who’s “really” trans?I keep hearing voices sometimes. I’m really excited to think I might actually have people up here in my head, but even that feels shameful because I’ve always heard “You shouldn’t want this, it’s hellish. You’re fucked up for wanting to have a system. You’re erasing the trauma it’s given me.”I…don’t feel singular. I never have. I’ve never felt like I’m just me. I’ve always felt people behind me, hand on my shoulder, someone taking my hand. Someone holding me when I desperately, desperately needed someone I could trust to not abandon me the way everyone else had. Facets, I called them. Masks, even though they felt so, so different to myself.But because I can’t find them, because it’s strange and vague feelings here and there, it feels…wrong to be excited? Wrong to be happy or to finally feel like things make sense. Like I’m still not allowed somewhere that might give me answers.
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What do you mean “clinical”? Do you mean it’s language used by diagnosed DID systems, or is it like transmeds who use weird language to gatekeep who’s “really” trans?

Both. It is language that is generally only used by plurals who understand themselves using the clinical model; and additionally system gatekeepers, sometimes calles sysmeds, police the language that they think people are allowed to use.

I want to assure you, plurality is not always suffering, just as existing as a singlet is not always suffering.

Do not let shame and fear stop you from pursuing knowledge, or the truth about yourself.

If you’re looking for support, and feeling like you don’t belong, try looking for these terms: endogenic plurality, pro endo, endo safe.

Do you think a system could awaken at any age? Do you think it’s possible for someone who’s been going through life dissociated but not…”shifted out” to one day suddenly develop an alter? What does it mean to have an alter “awaken”?
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It’s our personal belief, and the belief of many on the greater plural community, that plurality can manifest, awaken, or be discovered at any age.

Clinical purists of the “model of structural dissociation” often dispute this, but they aren’t even getting their own clinical arguments right.

We use the term “awaken” for our own system members because we believe that we have a broadly fixed system and all of us have always been here, but dormant.

Other plurals use the terms “manifest”, “appear”, “be created” etc to describe new members coming into their systems.

We don’t use the terms “alter” for ourselves as that is specifically clinical DID language.

Please feel free to ask follow up questions.

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Hey just wanted to say that it’s cool to find another system who has similar beliefs on spiritual connection as we do! Also antis would absolutely despise me from the trauma I experienced to the way I cope with it because I somehow went thru a romanticized traumatic scenario bc the guy was a victim himself who didn’t know that it was wrong and thought it was another way of showing affection until he realized and kinda abandoned us which left me with really fucky feelings about all the memories. But even so it has always made us feel that comparing fiction to the reality we went thru is really insulting to us because none of the characters are real. Sorry if this is all a little trauma dumpy we just like how you guys are able to not let antis and other people hold you back. We’re still working on that. Also sorry for any possible spelling mistakes we missed we have dyslexia!

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Thank you for sharing your experience, anon.

We’re all really glad to know that there are spiritually oriented systems like us out there too.

Fancops/antis in general have a very back and white mentality and a lack of nuance in their understanding of trauma (among other things) which leads them to reject things and people that don’t fit their understanding of the world.

Hello. Uh I have a question about systems. I’m sorry if it’s weird and makes no sense but, do you think it’s possible for system members to like… I dunno the right word so I’m sorry if it’s offensive, but like do you think it’s possible for system members to manifest as an f/o?

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Hi there, anon! Thanks for your question, and don’t worry, it’s not offensive! That said, there are couple of ways to interpret what you’re asking, so, if I didn’t understand your question correctly, or you have more questions after our answer, please feel free to send a follow up message!

♦ The first way to interpret your question is “can you have a fellow system member that you treat as an F/O?”

The answer to this is resoundingly “yes.” There are lots of our system members are in romantic relationships with one another internally. One way that we share and celebrate those relationships is by treating them as “F/Os” online, and making posts about our relationships in that context.

For instance Harry and Peter are both members of Sinister System. They’re in a relationship. Harry likes to make F/O posts about Peter to show him that he loves him.

♦ The second way to interpret your question is “can you have an F/O that you later discover has become, or always actually was, a system member?”

The answer is also yes. An intense, intimate connection like an F/O relationship is something that easily create, awaken, or summon a system member of any type.

Even people who do not typically consider themselves plural experience this fairly frequently, and there is a lot of crossover with what is called a “soulbond” in this sphere. (please ask me if you want to hear more about soulbonds or check out the blog @soulbonder for more information.) Here’s one specific post you might find worth checking out.

I hope that answered your question, and if it didn’t, or if you have more questions, please let us know!

Please delete this if you don’t feel comfy answering Do all of your alters share the same opinions about shipping as the main ones who run this blog?

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Hi anon! Thanks for the question!

♦️ First off (and we will probably add this to our bio) “alter” is a strictly clinical term that applies specifically to members of a DID system or other plural system under a clinical model.

You haven’t done anything wrong, but we want to make it clear that this isn’t terminology that we use for our system members, as it does not apply to us, and makes many of us uncomfortable to have used to describe us for reasons I won’t go into here.

When you don’t know what language a plural system uses to describe the people in their system “system members” is always a safe bet!

♦️ As for your actual question; there aren’t any members of our system who would specifically fall on the ‘anti’ side of things, but there are a lot of us who just don’t care, think it’s a stupid thing to waste energy arguing about, etc.

There are a number of our members who are squicked by the same kinds of things that typically upset fancops, but they are capable of exercising “don’t like, don’t read”.

For the record, there are ~25 members of Sinister, most of whom front in the body fairly regularly, but a lot of us have no interest in blogging/fanfiction/discourse outside of occasionally talking about their day or reblogging picture of themselves.

The handful of us you see posting regularly are the ones who are interested in those things for the most part.

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theoliviaset:

Something we find really really annoying about the segregation of plural spaces by exclusionists is the amount of resources they try to cut systems off from.

DID/OSDD-1 systems can benefit from guides and advice from tulpamancers and other endogenic systems (we certainly have).

Endogenic systems can learn from traumagenic ones useful things about living with plurality and/or processing trauma.

All of them? No of course not. But the whole “we’re stronger together” is true here. Being more than one is a vast experience, and we can all learn from each other. We can adapt techniques and coping strategies from one another. We can support one another.

The lines are blurry enough that we can all share more resources.

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Exonostalgia:

Exonostalgia: The opposite of exotrauma. Events and experience that were experienced outside of this objective reality that give you a nostalgic or fond feeling.

People you knew, places you’ve been, and events you experienced, ect, that impacted you positively and give you a warm feeling to remember and think about.

I have been meaning to share this term for a little while, which I have been using personally. I hope it will be useful to others!

For historical purposes: exonostalgia was coined on 1/17/2023 by Jasmine of Sinister System and is meant as a term to be usable by all fictionkin, otherkin, plurals of all origin types and anyone else who finds it useful to describe their experiences.

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you’re human and you are one SINGULAR human.

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Oh lol we haven’t gotten a troll like this in ages! 🤣

We can play too!

Stop deluding yourself that there’s just one person in your body!

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Fucking lame ass troll.

Get some new material. We’ve been getting this shit since 2006. We’re you even born then?

Boo!!! 🍅🍅🍅

Is fictionkin or otherkin only for systems? A lot of the time, I see people refer to it as something restricted for systems, but I see other people refer to it as both for systems and people who arent in systems

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Hi anon.

I think you have the terms “fictive” and “fictionkin” confused.

“Fictive” is a systems only term which refers to any system member that shares an identity with a fictional character.

“Fictionkin” is a term that means anyone who believes they are or were somehow, a fictional character. Often this has to do with belief in multiverse reincarnation, or other spiritual beliefs, but not always.

Fictionkin is used primarily, but not exclusively by non-systems, and has a history as a belief system going back to the early 2000s.

Otherkin, the term from which Fictionkin is derived, is also primarily but not exclusively used by non-systems, and like fictionkin, was not created in plurality spaces.

You can read more about fictionkin at fictionkin.org or fromfiction.tumblr.com