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One of my former friends used to support me, comfort me when I was down over people harassing me for my F/O, but when they turned their back on me they said I was problematic for loving my F/O, and “forcing them” to do these things for me… Like, manipulating them into comforting and indulging me. I still fear that this is actually what I did without realizing it.

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Anon, the advice I give you depends strongly on an important factor.

Are your F/Os system members, soulbonds, or other real, people with agency of their own that you share your internal experience with in some way?

or are they just fictional characters that you write about and enjoy and play pretend with?

Because if they’re just fictional characters then it is impossible to manipulate them in any meaningful way. It’s like saying you’re manipulating a doll or a teddy bear. It’s ridiculous. There’s no need for you to feel guilty about any of it, because there is no real person for you to harm. Full stop. You’re fine.

If they’re system members, or other internal people with agency then it could be possible that you have been manipulative, or that your actions have caused harm.

Here’s what you should do if your F/O is a real internal person with agency that you worry you have been manipulating.

The same thing you’d do with any other partner you worried that you had caused harm to.

Talk to them about your feelings.

Communicate with them.

Ask them what they want, and if they feel harmed.

And if they do feel harmed, apologize, and ask them how you would like to proceed in the future.

a bit ago you got a (different) anon that was asking about the intersection between plurality and f/os, and you mentioned that the strong connection self-shipping can bring can form/summon (depending on your experience i guess) system members. we had this happen to us recently and honestly i don’t even know if there’s a point to this message i just likeā€¦ got so excited seeing someone talk about this and say “yeah this is a thing that can happen.”it’s totally new territory for me (we have some fictives sure but he feels likeā€¦ a different type of fictive i have no idea how to explain it) and i’ve never seen anyone talk about it, maybe because there isn’t a lot of intersection between the two communities, i dunno i’m not super connected so i could be wrong or just not looking in the right spaces but.we’ve basically been navigating blind which has been working but that doesn’t make the experience any less “lonely” i guess when you’ve never heard of it happening before yanno. and i’m also struggling with a weird amount of guilt around itā€” a lot of overwhelming feelings both positive and negative. i won’t go into detail because i don’t want to feelingsdump in your guys’ ask box lol, butā€¦ yeah.sorry i don’t even know what i was trying to convey here, feel free to ignore this, just seeing that ask made me do the metal gear solid “!” thing LOL.

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Anon, we are so glad to meet you, an so glad our posts resonated with you!

This part in your message stood out to me

we have some fictives sure but he feels likeā€¦ a different type of fictive i have no idea how to explain it)

I think you should check out some posts over at our (very out of date) blog @soulbonder and see if some of the experiences talked about over there resonate with you.

Please feel free to put anything you like in our inbox if you want to talk more about your experiences.

once again asking random definitions sorry! whatā€™s a fictionflicker? itā€™s been a long time since iā€™ve looked into kin stuff unfortunately

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Though they are often similar, Cameoshifts and fiction flickers are different experiences. A cameo shift is a general term for a shift (mental, phantom, or otherwise) into something that is not a kintype. They can be a one-time deal, or be reoccurring, and can happen to therians, otherkin, fictionkin, and even non-kin.

Fictionflicker is a word to encompass a variety of experiences that people may experience that do not fit under the ā€œfictionkinā€ umbrella. In general, they occur after the consumption of media (reading a book, watching a movie, ect.) and involve a temporary change in perception or shift to that of a fictional character. Experiences vary from flicker to flicker, and between people who experience them. It could feel similar to a kintype, or wildly different.Ā  A cameo shift could be one result, or just feeling strongly like a character from that world or connected to characters from that world. A temporary ā€œtaking onā€ or imprinting on a fictional character or world.

The term can also encompass other miscellaneous experiences regarding a blending of oneā€™s perception with fiction in a way that other definitions do not describe accurately enough, or are so rare they have no specific term

The main similarity between Fictionflickers and cameoshifts is that they are both temporary experiences, involve something that is not actually a kintype, and can be experienced by anyone otherkin or not.

source.

further reading:

Fictionflicker

Here to spread info on Fiction/Otherflickers

Iā€™m worried I may be a fictionflickerā€¦ How do I know?

Random anon here, how can you tell the difference between a fictionflicker and a kintype that’s gone dormant perhaps due to denial? Dormant is not the right word but I’m not sure how else to say it. Like ignoring that part of yourself?

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I wish I had a better answer for you than just “discernment.”

You just have to think about it, reflect on it, consider how it feels and what it means to you, and decide for yourself exactly what it is.

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onlyhalfdemon:

guidelines for minors in the therian/otherkin community:

  • predators are everywhere, including within this subculture. block. report. tell an adult you trust if you feel unsafe.
  • p-shifters are individuals who claim they can physically transform into their kintype. they’re lying. they want attention. power. control. block them and spread the word.
  • it’s okay to change your kintype. we’re just glad you’re figuring yourself out. we don’t think you’re faking.
  • “kin” is a noun, not a verb. you are kin. you are not “kinning.”
  • it’s okay to have fun in this community. it’s okay to take yourself seriously, too. if someone doesn’t like your self-expression? block them.
  • don’t feed the trolls. they want to suck you in. laugh at you. hurt you. don’t take the bait and remember: the block button is your friend.
  • some people believe their identity to be spiritual. sometimes it’s psychological. respect both.
  • if your identity is causing serious distress, to the point that it’s affecting your daily life, seek professional help. and if you ever feel like hurting yourself, help is just a phone call away.

Feel free to add more āš”āš”āš”

‘past life memories’ anon: thank you!! that makes a lot of sense! I also don’t think of my own past ages as “me” and sometimes view them as contrary or intrusive to my current identity, so it actually makes total sense that my experience of otherkin would be similar, where my past lives don’t feel totally congruent with my current self. Thank you for that comparison! It made a lot of sense to me! (I do also get fictionflickers and they suck, but they’re different from my other kin experiences)

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Anon, I am so glad that was helpful to you! Thank you for sharing your experiences!

He I’m the otherkin anon! The original one, not the follow-up one.Can you have a kintype to the earth? Like…I have this deep need to be the earth. To be close to plants and rocks and soil. Like Mother Nature’s long lost child. For a long time I just associated it with gender but lately it’s gotten more…intense? Like suffering if I can’t be outside. I hate being cooped up inside all day, especially for several days at a time. I want to move out so I can have the room to set up a gardening corner, with succulents and flowers and other plants. I need their presence.

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Many otherkin would say that these type of feelings would mean you should explore/question if you have a kintype that is something like a dryad, alraune, dwarf, or other type of mythological creature or spirit associated with nature ans the earth.

Other otherkin would say that you might consider yourself to have a kintype that is the earth itself.

Almost all otherkin would say that you should take your time and explore the deepness of your feelings, question and search for your truth and want is meaningful to you.

Describe your experiences to yourself and put together a picture of what you feel and what you believe yourself to be, and come to an answer about what you feel your kintype to be.

This is a process called “questioning”, and its the way otherkin and fictionkin discover the trith about themselves. Sometimes it can take a long time to figure out what is meaningful and true to you, and that is always okay.

Follow up question to the other anon asking about otherkin: Because Iā€™ve heard otherkin/fictionkin folks talking about their ā€œprevious livesā€ I kind of assumed that was what I was experiencing, but also people say that being kin with something means being it entirely. I get really vivid memory flashes of other experiences/universes and Iā€™ve sorted that into kintypes but the characters/kintypes donā€™t often feel super close to me and who I am: I donā€™t identify as them, although theyā€™re part of me, but not all of me, and Iā€™m not all of them. Sometimes they even feel foreign or invasive, but not always? Like they want different things than I do. Is this an otherkin experience or does this sound, like, delusional? Should I mention this to a psychiatrist whenever my therapist next makes me go? Iā€™ve heard people talking about delusional attachments and Iā€™m not sure what that is or if it matches better

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Many otherkin and fictionkin experience their kintypes as previous lives, and generally also consider those previous lives to still be fully them without separation. Sort of how you’ve grown more than your 10 year old self, but your 10 year old self is still fully you, rather than a seperate person. That’s how past life kintypes are.

There are also otherkin and fictionkin who experience their kintypes in ways that aren’t past lives such as parallel lives, and embodiment.

And there are kin who have past lives that they don’t consider ‘relevant’ enough to them to personally consider a kintype.

What you’re describing sounds like something I might easily describe as a past life memory we’re it to happen to me. These can also be called noemata, of you prefer a more psychological term.

It also sounds to me like you could be experiencing something called ‘fictionflickers.

Fictionflickers are a type of experience where a person suddenly and temporarily experiences being a person from a fictional media, which may include receiving flashes of memory, or temporarily takingbon the personality of that character.

You might not be the right person to ask but What’s a therian/otherkin? Somebody (somebody I trust) told I might be “kinned” to a thing and while yes I have a very personal and very emotionally significant attachment to that thing, I don’t understand what they mean and I’m looking for answers.

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Hey anon. A kintype (what your friend meant when they said kinned) is a very personal thing that only you can tell for yourself. Nobody else can tell you or you’re an otherkin, or if you’re a therian.

Here are some pretty decent definitions of the terms for you.

otherkin

n., sing. or pl. A person who holds the belief that they are not entirely (or not at all) human. Usually a spiritual belief pertaining to one’s soul and the reincarnation thereof, but may also be a belief that one’s genetics are descended from, for example, the Irish fae. The word Otherkin was coined to describe people who felt a connection to mythological humanoids such as elves and faeries, but has expanded in recent years to include dragons, gryphons/griffins and other supposedly mythical beasts as well as animals, angelic/demonic beings (angelkin/demonkin) and in some cases extraterrestrials.

Therian

A therian is someone who identifies as a non human earthen animal either spiritually or psychologically.

Therian is short for therianthropy or therianthrope. Theri= animal, anthro=man. Therians can have “shifts” but not all do. All therians understand that they cannot physically shift and are not physically an animal, they know they are physically human.

Therians are a category that fall under otherkin. Otherkin is anyone who identifies as non human. This includes therians, mythkin, fictionkin, plankin, etc. Not all therians are spiritual, some are psychological and not all therians have a connection with their theriotype.

  • Her theriotype is a rabbit.
  • He psychologically identifies as a hawk.
  • She spiritually identifies as a fish.