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On Tuesday, May 29, 2007, LJers – users of the then-popular blogging site Livejournal – woke up to find that their Friends lists were showing a large number of names that had been crossed out, or strikethrough ‘ed.

It turned out that LiveJournal had permanently suspended over 500 journals based on the users’ interest lists. Interests that were likely to get a journal banned included but were not limited to: child pornography, incest, pedophilia, rape, domestic violence, BDSM, prostitution. Journals that listed things like murder, crime, drugs, cocaine, theft, tax evasion or election fraud among their creators’ interests were not banned: interests related to sexual crime were the targets.

Among the deleted ljs were RPG journals, book discussion groups [1], rape survivor blogs[2], and fannish groups, including the large and popular Harry Potter fanfiction community Pornish Pixies, which was an age-restricted community for adult HP fanfiction.

Please read about strikethrough and boldthrough if you are not already familiar with them.

These mass-censorship events destroyed whole fanfiction and rp communities, and were the major motivating events behind the creation of Archive of Our Own and Dreamwidth.

the thing about antis basically wanting to sterilize Ao3 and removing like incest and underage stuff is it isn’t going to actually STOP anyone from posting it there. People are just going to stop tagging it. I remember in ye olde days when ffnet banned smut, people still posted it, you just didn’t know it until you were slapped in the face with a surprise wiener when you weren’t expecting it. which imo is worse. i want my wiener warning

just-antithings:

yep yep exactly

queer-momoshiki:

blackheart-biohazards:

queer-momoshiki:

blackheart-biohazards:

Congratulations on making your fandom smaller, and less fun for yourself. 🫀

Why are they even using AO3 if they’re pro-harassment.

Some people are shocked to find out that AO3 was made for thorki shippers and underage harry potter fanfic.

They’re using a site that is literally anticensorship and are complaining about that.

ERROR 404: logical thinking not found

the proship is coming from inside the house!

antiproshipping:

antiproshipping:

antiproshipping:

nononono

As a CSA survivor who hopes to donate to ao3 when I can,

All antishippers and anto ao3 people owe me 2 years worth of salary and a apology on gatekeeping what survivor can and can not use to cope

Its never your place to tell people how to cope <3

Also people post their coping online for reasons. People read to cope. People need to feel like theyre not alone.

Also theres no csem on ao3 dumbass.

also i was very close to putting “die mad <3” but i didnt

Bro this happened to me recently and I’m still like ???? about itso a bit ago I posted an essay on ao3 breaking down the dynamics to one of the biggest ships in my fandom and showing, without a doubt, with evidence from the text (in-text citations, my beloved!) it’s canonically a toxic mess so the antis (who are naturally all about EWWWWW TOXIC!!!) who are so in love with it simply because it’s lgbt are hypocrites for shipping it (because of COURSE they ignore the toxicity *ahem* I mean sexual tension when it’s THEIR favorite, they’re the special exception to the rules)I got a comment from someone who sounds very much like an old anti I used to hang around and I’m 60% sure it actually is them. It was a first comment, and the anti I used to know deleted their ao3 account recently (I was rereading one of my old works when I saw their account was deleted) and seems to be gone off social media. Which. Good riddance. But now I think they could be anywhere.I’ve responded to all comments I got on my essay except theirs because it’s sus to me.

I feel you, fam, do not engage with any comments that you feel are sus. There’s no reason to.

Also, would love to read this essay, but I’m a nosy guy.

Interesting how antis insist anything on AO3 is CSEM yet they don’t call the police. It’s almost like they know deep down that there’s nothing worth reporting on there.

marshemillow:

Oh but anon, they do alert authorities. The cybertip line, which is supposed to be for alerting the FBI in the case of real cyber abuse (of which creating CSEM definitely qualifies) has been especially clogged up by false tips within the past few years, and it is almost certainly because of the rise of antis.

It was a bit ago by now, but I remember a post that was floating around where an anon claimed to have reported someone to the cybertip line for writing a sex scene between two fictional characters who were consenting adults. Of course, the user wasn’t in any danger, any competent agent would dismiss a tip like that as soon as they realized what it was actually about. Instead, assuming the anon wasn’t bluffing, the consequences of that false tip fell onto the abused children who may have been raped again in the time it took for agents to sift through the false tips in order to get to the real ones. Plenty of lawyers have even gone on record to say, “Stop reporting cartoon drawings as CSEM! They do not count! You’re just making it harder for us to help real children!”

Not only that, but antis have already gotten in trouble for spreading real CSEM, both to try and “own the nasty proshitters”, but also sometimes because when some of them see stuff like that, their first instinct is to put it in a public callout post, which further contributes to the exploitation of the child in said illegal content that they liken to that of an abused anime character.

But yes anon, Archive of Our Own is a very famous public website. The fact that it can be everywhere on the surface web in plain fucking view for this many years without the FBI so much as batting an eye should be proof enough that written fiction cannot be CSEM, but of course, antis don’t have fucking brains, so they can’t figure that out to save their lives. They just keep saying that AO3 is full of “child porn” and the government just like…hasn’t noticed yet, somehow.

You see what happens when you act like fictional abuse is the same as real abuse? Not only does it make you treat fictional characters like real people, it also makes you treat real people with flesh and blood like they matter just as much as a fake construct in a story that doesn’t actually exist.

People who play GTA V have no trouble understanding this distinction. That’s why jumping cliffs with your car and running people over in that game is funny instead of deeply traumatizing.

Sorry, anon. Can you tell that I’m angry? I’m a little angry.

Today is a good day to remember that fiction is not programming.

You can create and enjoy dark, taboo, problematic art without it impacting your personal morals or judgement.

Yes, even if someone accuses you of romanticizing or glamorizing said dark topics.

Fiction is not programming.

You know, if they really cared about rpf of minors on platforms, then maybe they should, idk, advocate to have fanfic be included with the visual representation law as well. Because you can’t get mad at AO3 for following US law to a T and not question why the US law has made visual CSEM/CSAM illegal(of real breathing minors), but didn’t include the text form of that as well. Just saying, AO3 isn’t the flawed one here for being within it’s country of origins law, look at the country of origin itself for not thinking this through.But you know what they say, just because it’s the law, doesn’t mean it’s always right. Which is what you told them, but they didn’t listen.

Why get into the serious world of political advocacy when what you really want is an excuse to be mean and nasty to people online?