One of these days fancops will watch a character explicitly molest a child who may even be related to them and they’ll make posts like “my fave incestuous child molester hates pro-shippers btw uwu 😘”
…Did you just first off invalidate being trafficked?
Did you know that human trafficking causes severe issues like BPD (which I have), chronic trauma/PTSD, drug addiction, sex addiction, suicidal ideations and attempts, self harm, alcoholism, unplanned pregnancy, STDs? like the list can go on.
Google “effects of human trafficking on victims” and I’ll wait for you.
Who the fuck are you to say what I can and can’t be effected by?
Aside from that I had trauma irl and online as a minor. You’re just not privy to that info. I don’t owe you shit.
You really think because I don’t delve into the full details about my trauma it means it didn’t happen? Do you have object permanence issues or smth?
???…. Anyway I’m going to ship what I want and draw what I want
I’m not doing anything wrong
Anon, who the hell is doing that? Because it sounds like you are pushing the boundary. It sounds like you are the one shoving something that will make this fictive uncomfortable onto them. Lacey isn’t doing that. She tags her posts. Her tags are the easiest to filter. But you on the otherhand, anon, are coming up to this fictive who is also implied to be a little, aka a child mentally, and telling them all this graphic stuff. That’s not on Lacey, anon, that’s not her fault. Anon, that is yours.
Speaking as a fictive and fictionkin, one again:
Creators are not responsible for how you, a fictive, relate to their creative work.
You, a fictive, do not have sole ownership over a character as a concept in fandom, or how that character is used in creative works.
this anon makes no sense.
Also anybody else die inside when antis use fictives in their excuses??
I did so much over it!!! It’s so dumb!
It’s why 😼🔪 used to advise kin and fictives to just not interact in the fandoms they’re from at all. Cause some people just can’t handle themselves!!
Ive had to read that anon over and over cause the second sentence makes no sense???
Hhhhh
I wish I could tell this to anon personally.
Speaking as a fictive, my abusive father sexually abused me in canon, and there are people in fandom who get off to porn of that.
And I will defend their right to do it!!
From far far away because it makes me feel sick to my stomach and I have all those tags blocked!!
I’m so sorry that that happened to you, anon, and glad that you got away as unscathed as you did.
I really wish that kids online these days understood; being honest about your age does not make you safer.
Assuming others are being honest about their age does not make you safer.
Sad but true.
internet safety is so, so important. as someone who was also groomed, my hesitance to disclose personal information even under threat of suicide probably saved my fucking life
and another thing — kids don’t understand how easy this shit is to find. a woman once contacted me for a commission, and she gave a short paragraph explaining that it was for a group she was in on facebook. well, she included her name with the request, so with the details of her group and a few things she mentioned, i figured out what state she lives in and found her on facebook with a google search and a few minutes of scrolling
now, i’m not a predator, so i told her to delete the parts of this request that were available publicly, but imagine if i was. i had her high school, her work, her family, etc. a fucking GOLD MINE for groomers. her facebook was fully public, too
for the love of FUCK, you should ALWAYS assume that you are speaking to someone who wants to hurt you! ALWAYS!! unless you’ve already met someone irl, better safe than sorry
now I’m thinking how lucky kid I was because my first time on internet was at 6-7 y. o only, and I always posted my photos/real name/day of birth🙃idk how i didn’t get groomed but now I believe I have some luck hah🗿the last time I get creepy message I was already 16 or 17 y. o so I knew what to do – block that person and that’s it…
Also I knew a girl, she was younger than me (16y.o and I eas like 18 or 19) and we couldn’t meet because her parents told her I could be someone else and older. well, guess they were right to worry about such things. too bad they were wrong about me 😅
You think people who have the urge to rape children shouldn’t receive therapy and community support to control their behavior and stop them from offending?
You think people who have the urge to rape children should be isolated and left alone to spiral out until they break and give in to their intrusive urges?
I’m sorry I am still mad about this. Watching antis act like fictional characters on the page have some kind of free will, or rights that need to be protected is baffling and alarming.
No characters are capable consent.
I can’t even describe how twisted it is that someone would think that the rights of a fictional character not to be trumped the rights of an author to write about characters being harmed.
And I say this as fictionkin and a fictive.
Writing doesn’t create experience. Someone writing a bad thing doesn’t inflict that on a specific person.
Characters in the page aren’t real.
Fictionkin and fictives are real people who for whatever reason they ascribe to are fictional characters.
But they are not the character concepts themselves and while we can but UPSET by fiction that involves harm to our character concepts it does not inflict harm directly on us the real people.
Fictionkin/fictives and the characters they are represented by in fiction are separate.
Fictional characters can not consent to anything, and the idea of their consent is not important .
The rights of real people walking around in the real world are what matter.
Someone in the replies said they think antis don’t actually understand how harm works, and I think that’s spot-on. I realized this myself some time ago, where I think antis think that CSEM is illegal because it depicts abuse, rather than the truth, which is that it can’t be made without directly abusing a real person (nevermind the very legal existence of things like fake snuff movies, which antis seem to conveniently disregard).
The purity mindset means that if you can sanitize yourself from the concept of child sexual abuse, then nobody can be accused of inflicting it, but just look at any huge purity cult like the Jehovah’s Witnesses and you’ll realize just how blatantly untrue this is. One of the scariest moments in my deconversion from mormonism is that because I didn’t even know what sex really was until I was 17, I could have been easily abused at any time before that and I would have been none the wiser.
I’m extremely lucky to have never been a victim of CSA, but many other mormon children are not so lucky, and because sexual activity of any kind is considered a sin, even the kind that’s inflicted onto you without your consent, children end up carrying this huge burden around that they hide from adults out of shame, and if you’re a mormon your whole life, you’ll probably never understand sex the way someone on the outside might understand it, because even married people who can have sin-free sex will still not be taught how to do it safely, or really anything else. That means sexual abusers in purity cults can frequently get away with it scott-free, especially since mormon and JW communities are extremely tight-knit and sheltered from the “sinful” outside world.
That’s why even if all antis were good and didn’t send death threats to random people, I still can’t get behind their movement, because I’ve seen it before, and I promise it’s not something you or anyone else wants.
Being forbidden from talking about abuse even in a fictional context will always be a breeding ground for real abuse to take place, so excuse me if I’m not on board with censorship on the grounds of “romanticization”, as if that’s not up to interpretation anyway.
I kinda want to remind everyone that the term “MAP” as in “minor-attracted person” was created as a psyop on 4chan by radical right-wingers in order to make the LGBTQ+ community look bad
It surprises me that people don’t actually know this and I wanted to share
Oh. I wasn’t aware of that, lol. I don’t really know much about the coining of MAP, I know it exists thanks to 4chan but I was lead to believe it started off as “clovergender” (for a trolling campaign) but then MAP was coined here on tumblr by someone who got the idea from the satire clovergender label.
I heard that’s also just another reason people treat the MAP label like an absolute joke. “wow, your ‘identify’ is based on a fake flag made by 4chan trolls. how pathetic is that.”
I’m not really sure what to believe though, lol. I feel like MAP is just one of those terms where it’s really hard or near impossible to find the exact first time it was coined. sort of like proship I guess, but I know anti anti was used first.
I hate to share this, but I have a pretty clear memory of MAP definitely starting before Tumblr existed, and starting on 4chan.
Because our abusive 4channer boyfriend at the time absolutely loved the label.
We broke up with him in large part because we found out he had a whole folder of ‘childrens swimsuit models’ on his hardrive.
Thanks for taking the time to share your story, anon. Honestly, the sad thing is stuff like this happens all the time. Glad you got out of the toxic anti soup.
