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ahdjcjebdhdjsndhcif:

A concerning amount of people seem to ship Larry and me. Some even go as far as writing fanfiction of us or even drawing “fanart” (🌽/🟧⬛) of us.

you proshippers need to go turn of your devices, go outside and touch some fucking grass smh

Speaking as a fictionkin and fictive system member you cannot in good conscience try to tell people in fandom what they can and can’t do with the character in your source material that represents you.

You, as a person walking around and existing in this world, are separate from that concept of the character that exists in fiction and fandom– and even if you don’t believe that you must admit that it is extremely rude to try to control the behavior of others.

fuckingdisasterhonestly:

blackheart-biohazards:

All I hear is “science isn’t real if I think it’s icky!!!!”

Okay but like, this post has been on my mind for the past half hour, and i cant help thinking of the parallels between this and conspiracy theorists.

My mother has fallem into conspiracy theorys in the last few years, so i have a bit of experience with them, and like???

The fact that this person and probably lots of other antis wont listen to scientific research and proper sources if they dont fit with their world view. This is exactly the same as conspiracy theorists.

The fact that if you try to argue with them, they just tell you youre disgusting and a pedo, and they dont even bother listening to what you have to say. This just makes me think of the way conspiracy theorists will call you sheep and not listen to what you have to say.

Both of these groups of people only read/listen to things that are in their favor and “prove” to them that they are correct on their idea of the world.

Idk im probably not explaining this well, its hard to articulate my feelings sometimes, but my experience dealing with my conspiracy theorist mother and what ive seen of antis just seem so similar

Yeah, as someone who also has unfortunate contact with those groups; is the same kind of thinking leading to the same kind of behavior.

I have never seen an anti say “kys” however I have seen many proshippers encourage CSA victims to off themselves or tell them they deserved what happened to them for daring to critique them slghtly.

badmrkitty:

king-of-general-disarray:

Anon you are genuinely either stupid or blind. I have never seen proshippers do what you said, but do you know who I have seen do that?? Antis. And I haven’t just seen it, I have been on the receiving side of being told “you probably deserved it” by an anti. Hell, I’ve been told I “probably liked it” by an anti.

I have been told to hurt or kill myself, been told I deserve to be hurt or killed by someone else, been told I would be hurt or killed by the anti themselves, and for what? Shipping fictional ships you don’t like? Go fuck yourself. You don’t actually care. You just want to control others. You don’t want people do to things you don’t like. You are a selfish bastard.

Have some links about times I’ve been told to kys. I warn you, the first one is… slightly fucked up.

This isn’t even all of it.

Don’t forget @things-antis-say is a great source for anti receipts.

chaos-event-horizon:

things-antis-say:

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things-antis-say:

omg, someone read my fic?? 🥺😳 that’s so sweet

Didn’t, only skimmed over. It tells me all I had to know. I won’t harass you or tell you to kill yourself, but there is no point in arguing, you’ll never change your mind. Now if you may please delete this post, I’d appreciate that.

actually, i’d like to know why you read something you knew you wouldn’t enjoy. i am already openly pro kink/pro para on this blog. what did upsetting yourself by reading my writing tell you about me that wasn’t already clear by the tags?

this is a genuine question, btw. i legit don’t understand why you read it, even if it was only “skimming”

Rian: they really do just be shooting themselves in the foot on purpose, and then get mad about it.

dead-pidove-do-not-eat:

marshemillow:

blackheart-biohazards:

All I hear is “science isn’t real if I think it’s icky!!!!”

I think it’s okay to ship underage and shipcest.

I think it’s okay to kill NPCs.

I think it’s okay to write fiction.

Huh. That wasn’t so hard. See, I have this thing called a brain, and I used that brain to conclude that real people matter more than fake constructs. Just ask Glarthir, the guy I killed and closed in a door so I could watch him glitch out of the world.

I mean hey, if you’re allergic to sources on scientific studies, that’s not my problem, sheep.

Maybe instead of wishing harm on random people who write icky gross fiction, you should be writing that essay on why Jack Thompson is wrong but you aren’t. I’ll wait. I won’t be holding my breath, though.

lol “do you have ANY critical thinking skills.” *Proceeds to make disgust based arguments* 

I need this person to define critical thinking, list the skills needed in order to engage in critical thinking and how they and this argument effectively engages with those skills. Because they really could take their own advice lol. 

marshemillow:

blackheart-biohazards:

This is so staggeringly sad in ways I can’t currently articulate.

“Yeah it’s totally okay to write to cope as long as you isolate yourself from everyone else and internalize everything and never seek validation from other victims!!!” -a totally normal thing to say about exposure therapy for healing from trauma and once again ignoring all the people who read to cope.

Again, why can I wax poetic about how I want to reanimate Lucien LaChance so we can give poisoned apples to all of Tamriel and laugh together as we abuse Bethesda physics and then wash the blood off our swords and no anti so much as bats an eye or even acknowledges real violence as bad, but as soon as sex is involved it’s suddenly not a healthy coping mechanism??

Why are there so many kids these days who internalize all concepts of sex as completely real all the time and end up having a worldview crisis because they suddenly realize that real rape is bad? Like?? As if that’s some kind of big revelation??? I’m not here to teach you that rape is bad! You should have learned that long before you learned the term “proship”, like of course we don’t talk about it!!! Why do you need random strangers on the internet to spoonfeed such profound messages to you as rape being bad????? I thought that was fucking obvious?????

Just…WHY???????

marshemillow:

blackheart-biohazards:

blackheart-biohazards:

“fictional children can’t consent”

I’m sorry I am still mad about this. Watching antis act like fictional characters on the page have some kind of free will, or rights that need to be protected is baffling and alarming.

No characters are capable consent.

I can’t even describe how twisted it is that someone would think that the rights of a fictional character not to be trumped the rights of an author to write about characters being harmed.

And I say this as fictionkin and a fictive.

Writing doesn’t create experience. Someone writing a bad thing doesn’t inflict that on a specific person.

Characters in the page aren’t real.

Fictionkin and fictives are real people who for whatever reason they ascribe to are fictional characters.

But they are not the character concepts themselves and while we can but UPSET by fiction that involves harm to our character concepts it does not inflict harm directly on us the real people.

Fictionkin/fictives and the characters they are represented by in fiction are separate.

Fictional characters can not consent to anything, and the idea of their consent is not important .

The rights of real people walking around in the real world are what matter.

Someone in the replies said they think antis don’t actually understand how harm works, and I think that’s spot-on. I realized this myself some time ago, where I think antis think that CSEM is illegal because it depicts abuse, rather than the truth, which is that it can’t be made without directly abusing a real person (nevermind the very legal existence of things like fake snuff movies, which antis seem to conveniently disregard).

The purity mindset means that if you can sanitize yourself from the concept of child sexual abuse, then nobody can be accused of inflicting it, but just look at any huge purity cult like the Jehovah’s Witnesses and you’ll realize just how blatantly untrue this is. One of the scariest moments in my deconversion from mormonism is that because I didn’t even know what sex really was until I was 17, I could have been easily abused at any time before that and I would have been none the wiser.

I’m extremely lucky to have never been a victim of CSA, but many other mormon children are not so lucky, and because sexual activity of any kind is considered a sin, even the kind that’s inflicted onto you without your consent, children end up carrying this huge burden around that they hide from adults out of shame, and if you’re a mormon your whole life, you’ll probably never understand sex the way someone on the outside might understand it, because even married people who can have sin-free sex will still not be taught how to do it safely, or really anything else. That means sexual abusers in purity cults can frequently get away with it scott-free, especially since mormon and JW communities are extremely tight-knit and sheltered from the “sinful” outside world.

That’s why even if all antis were good and didn’t send death threats to random people, I still can’t get behind their movement, because I’ve seen it before, and I promise it’s not something you or anyone else wants.

Being forbidden from talking about abuse even in a fictional context will always be a breeding ground for real abuse to take place, so excuse me if I’m not on board with censorship on the grounds of “romanticization”, as if that’s not up to interpretation anyway.

Wow I love to see extremely racist purity wank first thing in the morning.

“Fictional children can’t consent”. no one in fiction can consent, you dunce! Fictional characters do not have free will!