i feel like the crimew thing shows how much queer discourse dehumanizes people. crimew is an extremely cool & talented person who’s like. literally embodying ‘be gay do crime’ in it’s truest form, but the minute that people find out it is a bi lesbian, suddenly thats. all they can think of her as? like no consideration of how it Hacked The Fucking No Fly List, everyone can only focus on her lesbian identity crimes. because none of the people who do this shit can ever see “wrong” queer people as people. they treat identity discourse like it’s the biggest issue in the world even to this absolutely absurd level. doesn’t matter what they do for queer liberation doesn’t matter if they are happy, if you Do Identity Wrong all you are in their eyes are a freak who’s personally responsible for lesbophobia or transphobia or w/e. funny how that works
What was that quote that went something like “the left cannot tell the difference between an imperfect ally and the enemy”.
Leather daddies and transexual sex workers didn’t start the first pride riots for a bunch of polo shirt wearing Sunday school babies to tell us we’re not welcome at our own celebration.
“if a queer person is at pride they are visible”. Hell, do you even hear yourself?
People of all types need to realize they will never be able to shove themselves in a box small enough to be accepted by the people who categorically hate them.
I would much rather be represented by drag queens, leather daddies and pups than by petulant cowards afraid of their own reflection. You are talking about people who never had the option of being seen as “normal people who just happen to be gay” and channeled their pain into self expression, community and art. And who are you? You define yourself not in terms of who you are and what you create but in terms of who you are not and what you lack. These people you hate only seem larger than life because your life is too small and insignificant to fit them.
By the way legislators aren’t making laws specifically targeting the LGBTQ community because of pansexuals or trans people without dysphoria or aces and aros. They’re doing it because they hate queer people, and want to make us existing openly illegal.
No amount of “but but but the new labels are making us look bad and people won’t take us seriously” will ever change the fact that you are putting yourself on the side of people that want us dead. So stand by your community, or put a damn sock in it.
This is your community. There is no circumstance that you should say “well, the oppressor is right on this one” but that’s what SO many of you are doing!
When politicians mock parts of our community that they know you won’t bother to defend, they’re using it as a foot in the door. They are using it as a way to make their next action seem less extreme, and they will continue until they have achieved what’s happening in Texas and Idaho. And you are allowing them to.
Other queer people are not your enemy. And once again if you still can’t see that, you’re on the side of the oppressors.
my babies, this is how they always do it. they go after the “freaks” first. they go after the strange ones, the fringe ones, the ones who aren’t palatable, who don’t have anyone to defend them, who can’t find anyone to defend them because they’re “freaks”. and once they get a foot in the door, they move on to the next group. this is what they do. because their goal, their actual goal, is to eliminate us.
I absolutely guarantee you these assholes do not know or care about the finer points of queer identity. you cannot be the right kind of queer for them; there is no such thing. respectability politics will not save you. it never has and it never will.
do you honestly think these anti-queer laws are going to stop once they’ve sufficiently beaten down the trans people? do you legitimately think the people who hate us are going to be satisfied with just that? no! they’re going to do what they always do and ride that victory into a fresh wave of persecution. and little by little they’ll try to eat away at our rights, push us back in the closet, back into the airless dark.
they don’t have to win, but it takes all of us pushing back. stop this ridiculous infighting and stand together.
Just thinking about how republicans are going after normie sex shit like “internet porn” and “dildos” now
we fucking told y’all
to be clear: the right views any sex that isn’t purely procreative as deviant. it’s not just kink, or queer sex they find abhorrent. And they genuinely believe that the better educated you are about sex in general, including about gender shit, the more deviant you are. they’re legitimately trying to claw everyone down to hell with them.
This was ALWAYS a possibility. Normal ppl want normal type of restrictions. Right wing neo Christians will take that and dig a 6 feet hole bc they are dicks.
^ I think now is an excellent time for people to take stock of the “normal” restrictions they want imposed and see what’s really underneath those stones once they flip them over. How many people, upon taking an honest inventory of their moral presuppositions, might realize they’re part of the problem? Because for years we have had “normal” people crying for “normal” restrictions like “no kink at pride” and “stop talking about leather and bear culture and the bar scene” and demanding that everyone sand off their rough edges so they can be maximally digestible for non-queers and like. That reactionary sort of dialogue is what has primed our community for its impending dismemberment. Society has always wanted us gone, and it’s not just right wing neonazi christians that compose that society. Hating queers, freaks, transexuals, and the sexually perverse is baked into the center(left) too, even if those people try to gild it with platitudes. This issue of appeasement began in the middle with “the normal folks.”
Kink at pride is weird imo? Like it’s an all age event, uh LGBT kids should get to be safe? Like idk what to tell you.
Hi, so this is exactly what I was talking about, and I’m sorry I gave you even a little benefit of the doubt earlier. Since you felt the need to boil a complex comment down to a single maximally assailable point (nice rhetorical fallacies, by the way), I don’t feel bad about picking at your phraseology.
I brought up kink at pride because it’s been the subject of a frankly ridiculous amount of baseless fearmongering. And the way you talk about it proves my point. Kids go to pride all the time; I’m not sure why you’re acting like it’s a uniquely dangerous event compared to going to house parties, driving a car, or, idk living in a family and attending other community functions. Since newsflash: most abuse is committed by people children know, like parents, close relatives, and leadership figures. But please do tell me again how going to pride is “unsafe.” Sit there and think for a bit about what that sounds like, and who else in the world likes to paint queer community events as a breeding ground for abuse, assault, and indoctrination.
I’m trying to figure out what exactly you think is so horrible about people being themselves at pride. Of course you bring up the pup masks. You might have to explain (nonsexual) roleplaying to a child, but make-believe games are pretty easy to understand. What else will you have to explain? Maybe the o-ring collars and leather harnesses, but again, that’s not overtly sexual, that’s people wearing revealing costumes in public. Public sex means having sex in public, not carrying a flogger like an evening clutch.
But really it boils down to the fact that you’re uncomfortable that there may be a little nipple visible, tummy hair and ass hair, old people and fat people and people you don’t think should be visible in public.
Tell me quickly what is bad about a minor seeing a shirtless Bear in public. They see semi-clothed and nude people all the time in the gym, at the pool, and on the beach. But, of course, those are “normal” naked people, not “freaks” and “weirdos.” They’re not visibly queer.
All this talk about not “consenting to see kink” – please tell me where you are seeing the leather daddies sucking and fucking, send me their way. You’re parroting the same crap used as legal basis for arresting cross dressers, club dancers, and people on the street with their partners – the basis for all of those arrests, stop-and-searches, and harassment, is that “normal” people consider everything we do to be sexual. Every damn thing we do is already sexualized. They do not want to see us ever.
How dare you act like queers are uniquely dangerous toward children at a time when people are getting killed. Congress is introducing bills right now to finalize the censorship of the internet, allowing people to erase queer history and education, sexual education, and anything that doesn’t fit into their christofascist world view. They gained the traction to do that by capitalizing off existing “queer pedo” rhetoric and stoking it to new heights. You are literally doing their work for them by normalizing this shit.
“I had to explain to my child what a dildo was” is the left’s version of losing your shit over drag queen story time. Sure, people show hole at Folsom. It’s age restricted for a reason.
Do not @ me. I have a goddamn degree in public health. My specialization is adolescent development and interpersonal and family violence. Tell me again to my face how the “freaks” have found your (very public) post. Shut the fuck up.
Antis, why do you care so much what sexual thoughts other people are having?
Please understand you cannot police other people’s sexual thoughts and feelings without handing ammunition to the authoritarians who want to police all sex.
When you police people’s sexual thoughts and feelings you give power to the people who want to make abortion, cross-dressing and gay sex illegal.
When authoritarians say someone is a “pedophile” or a “deviant” they mean they are queer. When authoritarians call someone a pedophile or a deviant they mean everyone who isn’t having sex specifically for the purpose of procreation.
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