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707385989786730496 i don’t know about other proshippers but i don’t advertise what i am because i’ve gotten death threats and invasive asks and honestly i’m just here on tumblr to reblog memes and gif sets and send crabs to my friends’ pages not to deal with someone telling me to kys because i also ship a 15 year old with their teacher

Yep. That is exactly why people hide that they’re proship. To protect themselves from unjust harassment and threats.

Too bad this fancop doesn’t get that.

How come I always see anti’s saying the same things about us that we do about them They say they get hatred and attacks, they say proshippers break DNI, they say that we say they deserved their abuse, everything we say over here they say we do the same thing I never see screenshots tho, so maybe that’s the difference

It’s absolutely the difference, anon.

If proshippers were harassing antis on the scale that antis harass proshippers, they would never shut up about it.

There would be daily callout posts.

Bad actors exist in every group. There are proshippers who have harassed antis.

But they’re in the minority.

Whereas antishipping is almost entirely based around cyberbullying people they don’t like, and its obvious.

Just check out #anti receipts

A good way to avoid being ignorant is: When you are presented with a new idea, listen to people who represent that idea first. Never heard of proship people before? Search for stories from proship people. Second hand information will most likely be wrong or confusing.

People don’t want to learn about things for themselves, they just want to be told the answer.

The human mind also makes it easy for the “scariest” answer to be equated in our brains with the “truest” answer.

So sometimes people hear an answer that sounds scary to them and assume that it must be the correct one.

I compare tags to allergy warning.If you give me food without an ingredient list, I’m not going to eat it, because I might get ill. I’m used to being left out of meals, because I don’t demand everyone not eat peanuts because it makes me ill. I think fiction should be the same way, I don’t think you should read it unless you are sure it’s safe for you. If you aren’t sure something is safe, find something else.And if you are making a piece of fiction I think you should try and make a very thorough list to give people the best chance of avoiding it if it will make them ill.

I think that people should read things that challenge them.

I think they should read things that are contrary to their views.

I think that they should read things that make them uncomfortable.

I think they should read things that make them question their worldview and their experiences.

And I think that people should read these things by choice, and not be forced into it or surprised by it if they don’t want to be.

I absolutely think it is every person’s right to know what they’re going into when they read a piece of fiction, watch a movie, etc.

We tend to get triggered easily, so we often check ‘does the dog die’ or skim wikipedia for spoilers when we engage with a new piece of media that we’re not sure will be safe for us, and when we are not ready to be challenged or upset.

We watch and read a lot of upsetting media by choice, but we like to know that going in, and we like to be able to decide when we are and aren’t ready for something.

Why is almost everyone I meet with catgirl-(character), dogboy-(character) or (character)s(random object or fetish) in their url an aggressive harasser /rhetorical

Because they mistakenly equate possessing a harmless aesthetic with being someone who does not cause harm.

It seems like, even in proship circles, a LOT of people think ‘paraphillia’ means SPECIFICALLY attraction to children and/or animals. And like… that’s just incorrect. That falls under the definition, but being into feet or spanking or leather fall under the definition to—it’s just a broad thing meaning not entirely average sexual interests. Being gay used to be considered paraphilia. Seeing otherwise progressive people saying “people with paraphilias need mental help, not validation” just makes me kind of sad.

People like to boil things down to their ‘simplest’ definition.

The simplest definition also is the one that lacks nuance.

Paraphilias are thoughts and feelings.

If we believe that thoughts and feelings do not equate to harm, then we must believe that paraphilias are not inherently harmful no matter what they are..

However, many people are uncomfortable with discussing thee topics due to how taboo many of them are in our purity driven society.

Proshipping specifically is about fiction, so I can’t blame anyone who is proship for just not wanting to talk about paraphilia discourse. We don’t particularly want to discuss it either.

It’s a hotbutton topic.

As for where we stand, our position continues to be as with everything else, that thoughts are not harmful, only harmful actions are harmful.

Antis like to think nobody off tumblr cares about their censorship bullshit, but they’ll be unhappy to learn that, off tumblr, people just don’t call them “antis”. They call them moral panickers and, of course, censorship advocates. A la the satanic panickers, video game causing violence panickers, etc. Lots and lots of examples in history. Antis just like to think because they have a ‘cutesy tumblr name’ for themselves, they’re not as significant and it’s both alarming and strongly indicative of their own grossly distorted perspective..

Fancops like to have it both ways.

On the one hand they consider their bullying and abuse to have no affect on people because its “just online” and its “words on a screen”.

But at the same time they insist that everybody out in the real world agrees with them and thinks proshippers are disgusting.

They’re wrong about both things.

I bringing gentle parenting into my workI love it when kids don’t see you as an authority figure but instead someone who they trust and can help them solve problems Asking “why” when a kid is upset or acting is a huge game changer cause then you can get to the root of the issue I remember as a kid I was having a daytime AIWS/panic attack so I was trying to calm myself down by picking my finger but the teacher just saw me picking and she shouted at me for picking and not singing but I wish she brought me to the side and asked what the matter was I want to be the person I needed when I was little

I want to be the person I needed when I was little

So much of that sentiment drives our motivation too, anon.

You sound like a wonderful person, and I’m glad that these kids have you to rely on.

🤝 thoughts do not equate to harm.

🤝 fiction does not equate to harm.

🤝 art does not equate to harm.

🤝 only harmful actions equate to harm.

Thinking about something, enjoying thoughts about something, enjoying or creating fiction ot art about something does not mean that you will do that something.

Enjoying violent thoughts, fiction or art does not mean you will hurt someone in real life.

Enjoying sexual thoughts, fiction or art does not mean you want or will try to have that sex in real life .

probably silly of me to say but i literally have no idea how these people find the energy to be so unapologetically hateful. i don’t like wishing violence on anyone and i completely lack the energy (physical and mental) to do some of the things these people do. i know most of them are kids, and if not most of them act absolutely juvenile aside from the stupid death threats, etc. but i still find myself astounded. literally how and why are they so consumed with this that they’re willing to devote so much time and energy to all of this?all this is to say i’m very sorry your stuff is getting stolen. you all have been a kind and welcoming part of both the proship and selfship community here for me and i really hope that obvious stuff aside y’all are doing okay and having a good day/week! (are plural second person pronouns okay? i’ve used singular yous in the past since i wasn’t sure who would want to reply, but i don’t wish to be rude, sorry!)i did block/report the person stealing things. in another fandom i’m in someone once got reported by a part of the community due to them making some super violent tweets about ships and people who ship them, and when they got banned they just… made another account and said “i thought proshippers were against harassment!” (when literally all anyone did was report them lmao, no interaction) so i’m not hopeful this person will learn their lesson. but i do hope they come around eventually. no one should have to languish in the fancop’s puritanical “paradise”, it looks way more like a bleak hellscape to me. :/

Anon, I wish I had the energy for a more lengthy reply to this but literally thank you so much. 😭😭😭

(we don’t get fussed too much about pronouns too much so no need to worry about that.)

I really hope that person comes around but we can only wait and see.