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It bugs me how so many people believe that minors can’t hurt adults, which.. yes, they absolutely can and the way that minor antis are sexually harassing and accusing adult proshippers of pedophilia is pretty telling. They’re the ones forcing their weird sexual wants on proshippers, not the other way around.

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xxharryosbornxx:

Some people like to ascribe an inability to do harm to children, like some people like to ascribe an inability to do harm to women.

What’s important to remember is anyone who says that someone has no ability to do harm is casting that person as a perpetual victim; as well as robbing them of having agency.

No ability to do harm == no agency

If someone tells you that your class of people has no ability to do harm, ask yourself what vested interest they have in you having no agency.

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hellodystopianfuture:

xxharryosbornxx:

*casually draping my arm around your shoulder and gesturing with my other hand*

Now hear me out, pal, what if– what if I think ALL culture, art and writing are important and worth preserving, regardless of who wrote it and whether or not they’re deemed marketable by the capitalist institution?

I went to an exhibition of folk art once at a major national gallery. It was so vibrant and fascinating and culturally important – more so in a lot of ways than some of the art in the main galleries because this was art made by common people as something for pleasure or to express something in their lives. Sometimes it was made as a commission for someone but not for the aristocracy necessarily, it was made to be lived with and to be enjoyed.

The other notable thing about this exhibition was that it was so sparse.

Folk art, craft, it isn’t kept. It doesn’t last. A rich person hasn’t deemed it the cream of the crop and declared it to be worth a whole bunch of money so unless it is kept out of sheer love, it disappears when it’s owner is gone. It’s an ephemeral act of craft and creativity made by people that might be an expert in their specific field but one that isn’t currently deemed ‘high art’ or commercially popular or just plain fashionable enough to be kept after the owner or the artist is gone.

Sometimes this can be because the creators are marginalised groups and sometimes they don’t have the access to artistic and creative training. Sometimes they are just doing something they love and are good at but which no one else appreciates at that point in time.

Sometimes their motivations aren’t based in getting published or bought by collectors or whatever. Sometimes someone just wants to create.

The act of creating is what makes art art. It’s the intention. It’s not the result.

So yeah. Like. Fuck you dickweed. Not everything is about you and not everything is for you.

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xxharryosbornxx:

Good morning to proshippers of all ages!

  • Proshippers who are teenagers are valid!
  • Proshippers who are in their 20s are valid!
  • Proshippers who are 30+ are valid!
  • Proshippers who are middle aged are valid!
  • Proshippers who are older are valid!

You are never to young to curate your own online experience and to be against harassment!

You are never too old to participate in fandom!

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So, this account has caught up to the number of followers that xxharryosbornxx had, and there’s no end in sight to my shadowban.

I’m thinking about making this a permanent move, and just accepting the change in vibes that sharing a blog with Toko means.

If I do, we’ll probably end up changing the blog name to something that fits us both…

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Updates

health: Fever has broken, thankfully. We’re still sick but we’re at least able to use the computer/phone again. Hoping to catch up with the asks that have accumulated over the last few days. (thank you all so much for them!)

xxharryosbornxx: The account is still shadowbanned, and we haven’t received any contact from support. Debating whether to pursue the matter, or just drop it and move to this account permanently. Thoughts? Input?

This is a genuine question.Is pro-ship still applied to in real life people being shipped? Like if it’s people making fanfictions of them and things like that, is that okay?I see a lot of discourse about it because their immediate thoughts are that shippers for irl people just harrass said person/people to get together and follow them, etc. But I dont do that.

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The answer to this is much more complicated than the answer with regard to fiction that only involves purely fictional characters.

It’s honestly not something I’m generally comfortable discussing, if only because it’s not relevant to me. I’m not a ‘fan’ of real celebrities, of any kind, either mainstream or youtube celebs.

I don’t create, consume or participate in any rpf content, because I’m not interested in celebrity content, or parasocial relationships with real-life non-fictional people.

But here’s my take on it.

🔎 From a purely legal standpoint (in the United States at this time), rpf is acceptable, as long as it is clearly identified as fiction, and does not stray into the realm of libel or misinformation. This is why you can have real-life, living presidents appear in comic books, or use Elvis as a character in fiction.

🔎 From a practical standpoint when one becomes a Public Figure like a celebrity, a musician, a head of state, one commonly accepts that it means that people are going to be very weird about you, and you are going to lose a certain amount of privacy, whether that means dealing with paparazzi, people who send you letters about how you should marry them, or finding weird fanfiction about you. There’s no way to stop all rpf writers– they have existed forever along-side all other versions of weird (and I mean weird in a completely non-judgemental way) fans.

🔎 From an ethical standpoint its going to depend on your personal code of ethics, and this is where it diverges from fictional shipping for a lot of people. Some people believe that it is always a violation of a person’s privacy and boundaries. Some people don’t agree that it is. These people are unlikely to be persuaded in either direction.

If you are someone who wants to write rpf and wants to go about it in the most ethical possible manner, here is MY advice, in adherence with MY ethics, for how one would go about doing so.

🔒 Always clearly identify rpf content as fiction. Include a clear disclaimer at the beginning, and possibly ending as well.

🔒 Never attempt to create photoshopped or computer generated rpf images with the intention of making them photo-realistic or indistinguishable from reality.

🔒 Never share rpf content in places where you believe it is likely for the person you are writing about to stumble across that content unintentionally.

🔒 Only publicly share rpf content of people who can reasonably be considered public figures. Do not ever publicly share rpf content of private citizens or anyone is ‘just some guy’.

🔒 Do not ever send rpf content to the people who it is about, or to people who are related to them.

🔒 Do not ever harass, stalk, or solicit the attention of public figures, celebrities, or their friends and families for any reason.

Some people consider rpf content to fall under the proship umbrella, some people do not consider it to.

I do not take a firm stance on whether it falls under the proship umbrella or not, because I do not create or engage with those materials.

Personally, I would say that I am closer to saying that no, rpf doesn’t fall under proship.

HOWEVER that does not mean that I think writing rpf is necessarily unethical, I just think that it has different ethical considerations attached to it than when only fiction is involved.

AND IT IS NEVER OKAY TO BULLY OR HARASS SOMEONE FOR WRITING OR POSTING RPF.

DO NOT BULLY OR HARASS PEOPLE.

Do not bully or harass rpf creators.

If you see rpf content that you believe is harmful, or that disturbs you, your best course of action is to block the user posting it, and, if you believe it is warranted, report the user for whatever violation you believe is taking place.