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Oh gods, I never considered the fact that there might be a reason I don’t remember any trauma (I have definite gaps in my memories as a child, but never really connected the dots, wow-). /gen But the other points you make do make sense to me, I understand what you mean. I guess a better way to explain the experience is definitely “not feeling in control” sometimes; sometimes I’ll do something on what I can only describe is “total autopilot” ?? Like my brain does it automatically, but I don’t (1)

really… process it, I guess? Or like I don’t see it happening, if that makes sense? I’m vaguely aware that it did, but just… wasn’t a part of it, I guess? Or, sometimes I find myself questioning if I actually did something but I don’t know if that’s an ADHD thing or… something else. I don’t really have the vocab to explain really how it works, but it’s def a feeling of “someone else did this,” if that makes sense? Sorry to bombard, don’t really have anywhere else to turn for this. (2)

To me that “autopilot” sensation sound a lot like how I might describe dissociation of some kind. Some terms you might want to look into are depersonalization and derealization.

It definitely sounds to me like you have something going on, but I can’t diagnose you either psychotically or spiritually.

If I were you I would definitely try to do some reading of other people’s experiences and see if you feel like any of it matches up with yours.

@sophieinwonderland is a pretty good table blog that deals with both endogenic and traumatic plurality; while not everyone agrees with them (and I don’t agree with everything they say either) they’re very good about providing sources and resources and I think that could be a good place for you to start.

Another, very old, plural community resource is astrea’s web– I find their glossary of terms very helpful even now.

Again, please don’t be shy about sending us asks, if you have any other thoughts or read something you’d like to ask us about.

Idk if you guys are open to receiving asks about this, but for a long while I’ve been wondering if I’m part of a system. I feel like I am. Like my body isn’t really wholly “mine,” if that makes sense ? But from what I can remember, I don’t have any trauma that might cause it ? And I know you guys are okay with endos, but I dunno… It’s a lot. I’m not really sure how to process all the coincidences and lowkey, I’m kinda scared about it. /gen

Hey, pal.

Trauma isn’t the only thing that can cause a system to form. There are many other reasons, both psychological and otherwise.

But also, you should know that when a system does form from trauma, it is often forms for the express purpose of covering up that trauma and making it inaccessible to memory. So while you are probably correct that you don’t have trauma that caused a system it is theoretically possible that you do.

But here’s the thing, trauma isn’t what you should focus on here. Whether or not you have trauma is irrelevant to figuring out whether or not you’re part of a system.

And if you feel like you are, and if you feel like your body is not wholly your own, there is almost certainly something out of the ordinary going on, whether it’s psychological or spiritual, being part of a system, or something else.

Feeling like you’re not always in control of your body or your life can be a scary feeling. But finding out why that’s happening– and if you are part of a system, learning to communicate within that system– is the first step to making it a lot less scary.

We are happy to help you any way we can with questions, if you do have more for us.

Some random Sinister System history trivia

There are either 23 or 25 sinister system members depending on how you count.

Toko (😼πŸ”ͺ), Hal, Trevor (πŸ”«πŸ³) and Kirigiri (πŸ”βš”οΈ) we’re the first members awake in the body.

Despite Toko and Hal being the main fronters for years and initially considering themselves ‘the original body owners’, Kirigiri actually has the most access to childhood memories.

We first became aware of our plurality around the age of 11.

We started having access to intentional switching around 13-14.

About half our members woke up in the system between 13 and 17.

We had a major system shakeup in our mid 20s.

Each member of sinister system has a kintype based in each of our shared past lives, but not everyone has fully awakened each kintype yet.

Toko and Hal are a sub-system, and have shared a body and identity in multiple previous lives.

Sinister system fits some of the criteria to be considered traumagenic, but we consider ourselves spiritually originating endogenic as we believe that our plurality is a result of our shared reincarnation cycle.

Hi hello Emoji anon! It does make a lot of sense!What about other people’s? Like Chris or Wesker?

Glad it made sense!

Mine– Chris’ (πŸ’ͺπŸ”«)– is pretty simple. I’m almost always a big strong guy (Chris, Equius, Reiji, Balthus…) and I like guns ^^;;

The captain’s πŸŒ€πŸ˜Ž… πŸŒ€ Represents his nature of stormy chaos, specifically relating to his existence as Xelloss, and 😎 represents his tendency to wear sunglasses and/or have something visibly unusual about his eyes.

I’m really curious, actually. Do you guys use Tumblr’s DM feature? How do you denote who’s talking? Do you just use the emoji sign-offs you use in your posts?What do the emojis mean, anyway? Why did you pick those in particular?

Hey there!

To be honest most of us don’t like the Tumblr DM feature very much; we prefer to talk over reblogs, asks, or in private on discord.

One reason is that those ways are easier to denote who is talking, as you guessed. Another reason being the frequency we switch making it hard to keep a conversation going outside of a single timeframe. Like, Harry will be DMing someone on Tuesday, then Toko will be around on Wednesday and not remember there was a conversation happening or it won’t be relevant to him if he does.

Discord makes it a lot easier to keep track of conversations and keep from forgetting about them, also pluralkit makes it easy for more than one of us to talk at a time on discord.

When we do use DMs (usually it’s Harry or Chris who does) we generally either say who is talking at the beginning of the conversation, or we don’t bother to say who’s talking specifically because it doesn’t matter to the conversation and we can all just mask under the name/account and speak as a system.

The emojis each represent a single, distinct member of the system without directly using the name of any of their kintypes/shifts. It’s like a symbol that represents them as a whole.

Each member of sinister system is fictionkin, and each of their kintypes is a past life that is a part of their whole, larger identity.

The emoji combinations are picked because they’re symbols that relate to that system member over multiple lives/shifts.

So for instance, I’m Nine. In my past lives I’ve been Sollux Captor, Carlos Oliveira, Mort Toyenbee, Ryuji Sakamoto, Aoi Asahina, etc. Those are all elements of myself that I might want to refer to individually for one reason or another. My emoji combo 🐸☠️ refers to my whole self, as all of me and none of my kintypes specifically.

🐸☠️ is the combo I picked because I have an association iny kintypes with frogs/toads and water, and ☠️ I picked for my association with death, piracy etc.

Toko is 😼πŸ”ͺ because a lot of his kintypes are cat based or involve knives and stabbing!

Harry is 🌺😈 because the flower is beauty and grace and an association with flowers, and the imp face is for being a goblin!

Does that make sense anon? πŸ˜€ if you wanna ask more about specific members emojis you can go ahead!

–Nine