yo, i can’t sleep so i’m gonna be dissecting/debunking this terrible post i saw in the proship tags
“what makes writing an incestuous or a pedophilic relationship in fiction wrong?” nothing, glad we could clear that up. good work, everyone, let’s hit the showers
“the answer is romanticization” ugh there y’all go again with that word you love to throw around. do you even know what it means? can you give me a single source proving that it’s a bad thing? when the fuck has an adult ever been like, “i saw grooming in this danny phantom fanfiction and assumed it was a good thing, i didn’t know it would hurt this kid!” (kids falling for it doesn’t count, they’re allowed to be stupid — and i’m not about to let manipulative adults off the hook by blaming the tools they used)
“what makes pedophilic fictional relationships wrong?” nothing. pedophilic relationships are bad irl because, uh, there’s a real fucking child being abused and manipulated. this cannot happen in fictional settings because the child isn’t real — the writer controls every aspect of their reaction. please stop comparing irl child abuse to drawings
“most if not all, fiction published to Archive of our Own that fall under this category romanticize it” mhm. good for them. why should i care? you have yet to give a reason, let alone a source, proving why this is a problem
“they call it different names” yeah??? because it IS fucking different??? please don’t tell me that you think loli is comparable to csem (of course you do, that’s the point of this post. ugh)
It must be really easy to get through life when you can just throw a tantrum over every little thing and then pat yourself on the back for how “moral” you are.
trigger warnings apply, as these studies openly discuss sexual fantasies, rape, and pedophilia.
here’s the tldr for the links i have so far
1) this is a dissertation on women’s rape fantasies. the most important take away, to me, is this part: “62% of women have had a rape fantasy.” if you are worried that your fetishes make you a freak, don’t! chances are that they are more common than you think
2) this study is almost 40 years old, and dispels the myth of the “willing victim” and the ridiculous notion that fantasies contribute to rape culture. this is my favorite quote: “The crucial difference in such a sex fantasy of “rape” and rape itself…is control. The fantasizer is in charge of her inner world and of the meanings she assigns to her fantasy.”
3) this one is very interesting. it’s a study done of convicted sex offenders to see how much (if at all) fantasies contributed to their crimes. the results? “…there is often little difference between the broad fantasy themes of sexual offenders, nonsexual offenders, and community samples…” meaning that nonspecific fantasies had no correlation to committing the crime
4) this is a paper on the racism inherent to certain criticisms leveled at japanese media, specifically sexually violent video games. very interesting read! the main take away is that, rather than viewing this media solely as “immoral, dangerous and sexually deviant,” it’s much more beneficial to view it through other lens, such as “interpreting the video game through catharsis/sublimation theory, rape terror management, anime orientation, age play and a rape fantasy kinky framework.”
5) this one is actually a book, not a paper, which means that you need to pay to read it, unfortunately. i might do that, or see if i can find it in a library, because it looks interesting. it discusses moral outrage, thought crimes, and the legality of fictional underage porn (spoiler: it’s fine). the author also seems to have a healthy dose of sarcasm, lmao
6) i had to censor “child pornography” on the page itself, otherwise tumblr wouldn’t let me post it, pfft. way to save the day, tumblr. no one will ever post csem now. anyway, this paper is about lolicon and censorship. one of my favorite quotes is, “Because there is no actual crime committed, it ultimately ends up an issue of how one interprets images, of a person’s private thoughts, and this is not something that can or should be regulated. All forms of imagination, regardless of how repugnant some may find them, are legal up to and until they present a real danger to self or others.” incredibly well said!
feel free to read and share these papers, and contact me if you have any official sources that you’d like to add 🙂
